Posts by The Searcher

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Donations aren't coming in from Western Countries: more confirmation

by Julia Orwell in

in talking to sparky the elder today (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/263862/1/an-elder-called-me-hes-waking-up-and-knew-id-understand-nice-for-him-to-have-a-friend) i found out he did the accounts for our congregation for years.

he said very rarely did the congregation meet its expenses without some well-off brother chipping in a few grand here and there.

the elders would also make up the shortfall.

The Searcher

konceptual99 said, "that there will be a long wait before it get's critical and I simply don't see it becoming terminal any time soon."

Lehman Brothers were a bigger concern financially than WTBTS. What happened to them came out of the blue to everyone but those at the top - in the 'know'.

AIG, (needed major bail-out) Woolworths became extinct, and Greece, Italy, and Portugal are all surviving, thanks solely to the world banking system. The WTBTS does not have such 'knights in shining armour' ready to bail them out of a catastrophic financial crisis, and that's why I fully expect some drastic and out-of-the ordinary begging letters from HQ for cash in the coming months!

The 'Black Swan Theory' springs to mind!

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Donations aren't coming in from Western Countries: more confirmation

by Julia Orwell in

in talking to sparky the elder today (http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/263862/1/an-elder-called-me-hes-waking-up-and-knew-id-understand-nice-for-him-to-have-a-friend) i found out he did the accounts for our congregation for years.

he said very rarely did the congregation meet its expenses without some well-off brother chipping in a few grand here and there.

the elders would also make up the shortfall.

The Searcher

I remember feeling so guilty years ago, when I first visited my wife's old congregation (100 + pubs) which was mostly composed of comfortably off Witnesses. They read out the financial statement which shocked me - bank balance of about 400 euros!!

Why did I feel guilty? Because while I was visiting her old home town, I purchased a beautiful power tool at a reduced price - 600 euros!!

I couldn't believe the congregation was so low in donations!

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Not Forsaking Christian Gatherings

by StephaneLaliberte in

at the meeting this week, there was a part about placing our trust in jehovah and not worrying about food and shelter (mat 6:33).

the part was based on the 2013 yearbook p138 and 139 where there were two examples:.

a family went to their convention leaving their chickens unattended for a number of days, worried about if they would survive.

The Searcher

Stupidity, cruelty to their domestic creatures, & negligence led to them losing their chickens, but noticeably, the Yearbook never even hinted at how they acquired 100 chickens within a year. Did their lottery ticket come up, or did they just stop contributing at the KH for that year?

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"The excitement is PALPABLE"

by Separation of Powers in

got caught at the supermarket (in between the martini olives and snack crackers ) with several bottles of hard liquor in my basket along with some red licorice by a sister that has known me for years.

still respects me, not knowing that i am in full fade mode, or at least not recognizably knowing.

anyway, when she sees me, her eyes get all big and she heads in my direction, nearly ramming my liquor laden cart with her vegan oriented basket.. "hey sop, how are you doing?

The Searcher

@ STAND FOR PURE WORSHIP - You calling me an apostate? I resemble that remark!!! :)

I am an active Witness who has come to discover over the past 4 years that a helluva lot of what is fed through the WTBTS literature is theological effluent at best, and outright blasphemy at worst. I favour the latter!

However, as all "true Christians" © should do, I'll give you one simple example from the Bible; Do you believe & teach that the alien residents in Israel were beneficiaries, but not participants in the Law Covenant?

Please read read Deuteronomy 29:10-15, and discover who the apostates ('standing away from truth') really are!!!!

That's just one example - there are many more!! Do some Bible research on the "new scrolls", and be prepared for more deception.

I look forward to hearing your response - if you really want the truth!

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Reverse Witnessing Idea...

by The Song Remains The Same in

reading a couple of threads here about how to handle jw's when they try to witness to you, i was wondering if anyone had tried to give an everyday situation example with a couple of choices to a jw and asked them what the right answer is.

then when they have picked, show them that the wt would have given the other, more shocking, answer.

well.... let's say john works someplace, and finds out that there is criminal activity going on.

The Searcher

Waste of time writing anything down for Witnesses - in the KM last week we were 'reminded' never to read other people's literature, and 'by extension', that would include anything written down which could "shake our faith". (in the GB!)

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Can anybody upload the annual meeting recording already?!

by EndofMysteries in

there has to be atleast one elder here who was given the annual meeting recording, unless it's in some sealed box where every elder in the congregation has 1 key and all must open it at once, assuring nobody opened it prior to the day.

but if not, if one of you has it, be a boss and upload it already.

how funny if the whole thing was online 2 days prior.

The Searcher

Wish I had a time machine! :)

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Is it VITAL that we recognize the faithful slave?

by Trevor Scott in

jw gonebad made this comment in another post:.

get a load of this audacious and brassy statement by the self-appointed fds in par 2 of todays lesson:.

it is vital that we recognize the faithful slave.

The Searcher

I thought that Jesus said something about "No man can come to the Father except through the GB."

At least, that's what I read at Matthew 47:29 in the New-New World Translation. (pre-release copy from Amazon!)

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Duped by my dub mother

by Faithful Witness in

i'm not sure what wenr into my mother deciding to send me this email.

i am just sick, and sick and sick of her treating my children and me like we don't matter.

she sent this message, and when i replied she told me it was a joke and then rejected my invitation to lunch, since they'd already made plans with their friends who are moving to the different congregation.

The Searcher

So she hasn't been informed that she is going to listen to a video recording of the 'chosen ones' at the Annual Meeting?

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Witnesses Get Shot At

by metatron in

jw
friends

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/jehovahs-witnesses-shot-at-867543.

i like the comment that 'i didn't know it was jehovah's witness season.

i gotta get my license renewed".

The Searcher

What would Baldwin have done if this was hisneighbor??????????????

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/florida/woman-92-goes-ballistic-after-being-denied-kiss-874093

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HELP. ELDERS COMING TO TALK WITH THE FAMILY

by Thoughtless in

so after the annual meeting, on sunday, the elders want to talk with my family.

i do not like this one bit.

perhaps i am being exposed.

The Searcher

Obviously you are not worried if it's just a normal shepherding call - just if they are after you personally.

So prepare your mind just to be ready: if they are out to interrogate you, and ask you what you believe, and if you believe certain things, DO NOT ANSWER! Turn the tables, and put them under a helluva lot more pressure in front of your family by replying with a question - "Do both of you brothers believe everything the "Faithful Slave" teaches is the truth?".

Don't let them off the hook - keep pushing them until they give you an answer. (probably a resounding 'Yes') Then give your answer - from the Bible!! Request them to open their Bibles and read Deuteronomy 29:10-15. Now ask them why the FDS says the opposite to what God Almighty says there! (Alien residents WERE included in the Covenant!) Having dealt with that 'problem which you have', ask them to briefly explain the teaching of the "New Scrolls". Get them to open up their Bibles to Revelation 20:12, and ask them where it says "new". Then ask them how Revelation describes what's in these 'scrolls'. To bury their false belief, ask them to read verses 1-7, to ascertain when these scrolls are opened!! (not during the 1000 years - but after Satan is destroyed)

Then tell them that you have a strong belief in God's Word, and you don't like hearing things which contradict it!

All the best - hope it turns out to be nothing more than a family pep-talk!